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This is a great thread. I shoot the .357 Max in a TC Contender. Very, very accurate.
I also have the .44 Desert Eagle, but mine shoots what I feed it. Maybe all of my loads are hot.  I think that it is adjustable, but that could be the AutoMag or both. You definitely do not need +P ammo for it. I have one of the old Ruger .44 Carbine rifles and it is very particular about ammo and will only cycle with my highest pressure rounds.
I think that I am being affected by recoil, because I can't remember why, but I bought a heavier barrel for my TC Contender a few years ago chambered in .445 Supermag. I can use .44 Mag for light loads. The Supermag is like a .44 Mag, only the case is quite a bit longer. The recoil is significant. Dan Wesson makes a wheel gun that shoots .445 Supermag for those who like big heavy hard hitting revolvers. The weight makes the recoil better than with the Contender.
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I would not say that I am recoil sensitive, but recoil tolerance is certainly a learned behavior that does not come naturally.
The .445 SuperMag is intended to knock over steel targets at ranges exceeding 200 meters. But it is useful for other things as well. 
I don't shoot a .375 HH, but I do have a .338 Win Mag which is its somewhat smaller sibling. Either one can beat you up on a shooting bench. But, when I shoot it in the field, I don't even notice the recoil.
I select the proper caliber for the proper situation and game. My favorite gun is kind of a toss-up between a Model 27 SW in .357 Mag and a Glock 20 in 10MM. For CCW, I like the Glock 27 in .40 SW or Glock 29 in 10MM. These are matters of personal preference only. I have Berettas, Sigs, Colts and others, and they are all good guns, but sometimes it just comes down to what feels best to you.
Recoil or not, the first and most important rule is to hit what you are shooting at. It is better to hit with a .22 than to miss with a big bore hand cannon.
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I am not much of a .40 SW fan either, but 10MM is one of my favorites. I even have an upper for my M16 that shoots 10MM.
BTW, for the Glock 27, I just bought a barrel to convert it to .357 SIG. I like the ballistics better.
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I shoot a few specialty (and former wildcat) cartridges. Among them 25.06, .357 Max, .445 SuperMag and 7-30 Waters. Why the .40 took off compared to the 10MM I will never understand from a practical standpoint. I have heard that it had something to do with politics and the FBI, but that is another subject.
I bought one of the first SIG 229s in .357 SIG because I am such a fan of the .357 Mag. Bottleneck rounds feed like nothing else...it is almost impossible to misfeed them. Since then I have bought .357 SIG barrels for other .40 pistols that I have. I even had a custom ported one made for an early SW Sigma pistol that was physically larger than the current Sigma.
I reload most everything that I shoot. Some cartridges like the .222 I shoot so seldom that I only use a Lee Loader, but there are others like 9MM and .223 that I shoot in volume and really need a motorized progressive. Right now, I use a standard RCBS press for everything.
Shooting seems to be such a popular topic with this group that I have no doubt that a special "firearms" forum would be well utilized. What about it, Dennis??
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Mark I agree with just about everything that you said, but I just didn't want to open that wound again. However, I do believe that the "original" 10MM was the full powered version. It was then "neutered" at the request of a panel at the FBI that was investigating new rounds for the bureau.
I was bothered when they decided that the 10MM was "too powerful for the average FBI agent", after the tragedy where they had several agents killed that were using 9MM. I think that the 10 is very managable.
The writing was on the wall when they reduced the load. If you can get the same reduced ballistic performance from a round that is 0.1 inches shorter and will fit in 9MM size frames, then why not use the smaller cartridge?
I disagree with the original assessment and therefore have a hard time with the whole .40 SW history. It is not hard to envision the gun companies supporting this also when they stood to gain huge contracts for supplying new weapons. If .40 guns were adopted they would make more money by not having to retool as many production lines.
Anyway, that is water under the bridge. The .40 has earned it spot in the history books. I like my 10MM. I will continue to shoot it until I can't get brass anymore. I guess that I should see if I can bottleneck that cheap .40 SW brass for my .357 SIG. I reform cases for my 25.06, but have never tried for the .357 S. Any ideas?
About the question on the Weatherby...I do have a Weatherby but it is in 25.06. I don't shoot any Weatherby rounds. I would like to find a Winchester 94 in 7-30 Waters. If you hear about one please consider letting me know.
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The Weatherby is the MIV Deluxe, I believe. It was not really a very good gun when I bought it.
If you shot twenty rounds through it the shots would drift six inches or so at 100 yards. The first time I tried to sight it in the groups were large. Then the next day it was six inches off when the barrel was cold.
The front of the stock had a LOT of pressure on the front of the barrel. This was bad enough that you could see the whole action/barrel bend when it was screwed down on the stock. I took the stock off and milled out the inside of the foreend and glass bedded the barrel. Now it is OK shooting and I can certainly use it for hunting. It will now take 20 shots without drifting nearly as much. But I have a Ruger 77 Varmit Special in 25.06 that doesn't drift much at all. It is just the thing for the occasional, enraged, charging prarie dog.
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There are more modern alternatives such as solids, but Nosler partician bullets are pretty good. I have also used the Speer Mag tips with pretty good success. For moose or elk I would use my .338 Win Mag. If I don't have the right handloads, I find that the Federal Premium rounds are pretty good factory rounds with decent bullets. I use ballistic tipped handloads in some 25.06 rounds and .223 rounds for the varmit rifles.
On the farm, it was my job to convince the ground hogs to leave the soybeans alone. A 7mm Mag with 115 grain HP is a pretty convincing argument.
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Hollow points are pretty much intended to make a mess. A .44 Mag HP load is OK in a pistol, but in a .44 Mag rifle, I use softnose bullets. A .44 Mag rifle is a nice gun for <100 yd shots on deer size and smaller game. The .357 Max that started this thread is also good on that size game and in that range.
I live in New Mexico. We have huge elk here. Colorado is probably even better. When it is not hunting season, you sometimes have to wait for the Elk to get off the road in the more remote places. I don't mind the delay, because they are beautiful animals.
There are no elk on my land. I have coyotes, jack rabbits, cotton tails and a few road runners.
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My wife likes the coyotes. We don't have any dogs or cats and so they don't bother us. So, the local coyote family is safe enough on my land. They do keep the bunny population in check. The rabbits do more damage to garden plants than I can explain.
There are some cattle ranches where prairie dogs are a big problem. The little critters tear up the land and cattle get stuck in their holes when they walk over the prairie dog colony. There are lots of people around the cities that think that they are "cute." I just had a conversation with a friend that was "concerned" about a group that catches prairie dogs live in Albuquerque and takes them out to the ranch land to "set them free." That is like someone catching rats and then putting them in your garage when you aren't home.
You probably heard about the guy from NM that turned up in New York with Bubonic plague a few months ago. He probably got it from the prairie dogs or the colony fleas. That guy lives within 50 miles of me. He and his wife are still not completely healed.
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I will shoot coyotes, just not these coyotes.
Even though I have a few acres of land, I am also in the city limits. That makes for some interesting things from time to time. There is a city ordinance about the discharge of a firearm, but it changes. It is on again one day and then off again the next. As far as I know, there is not a law against the discharge of a bow. But I am not sure I could get close enough to one of those coyotes to make a shot with a bow.
I grew up in Missouri. We hunted coyotes all fall and winter. I think that one thing that kept my dad alive as long as it did was the activity and exercise of getting out and hunting coyotes. I don't care how much hunting pressure was placed on coyotes, there were always more around. In my travels I lived for a time in California. I have even seen coyotes in Los Angeles miles from the closest natural habitat.
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I have one old beat up Win 94 30-30 that I keep around just because everyone needs at least one. It is a shooter that I am not afraid to throw in the back of the pickup.
I had both .270 and 30.06. I sold both and shortened the brass that I had for my 25.06. My main calibers are either .308 or 7mm Mag depending on the type of hunt. In the west most of the shots tend to be longer. This is largely personal preference. I got to the point that I just did not want to load another cartridge size. So, the .270 and 30-06 were sold because I felt that they were bracketed by the .308 on the low side and 7 mm Mag on the high side.
I have at least one standard bolt action, one heavy barrel target, and one all weather stainless gun in each of my two favorite calibers. The 7mm only shoots my handloads. I shoot a lot of .308 in military style guns and use the once fired brass for the bolt actions.
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It seems that many of us have common interests beyond our obvious interest in compact tractors.
I know that the Beaver Dam thread got a little out of hand, but I am sure that we could keep a "firearms" or "outdoor sports" forum pretty busy. Maybe we could exchange some good ideas about mounting a rifle scabbard on the fender of the CUT.
How about it Dennis? Would a special forum for "outdoor sports" make sense? We could use it to talk about firearms, archery, hunting, and maybe even smoking meat.
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I shoot both, personally. I like the 10 for hard hitting performance and a bit more magazine capacity in a frame size that is comparable to the .45. I load my 10mm so that they are just slightly below what you would get with a .41 SW Mag. My Glock 20s carry up to 17 rounds in the magazines.
I have been shooting the .45 for over 30 years. I have a Gold Cup and a H+K Tactical Rig. I have also shot it in the M3A and Thompson. It is truly one of the great rounds in history.
I have to think that my affinity toward the 10 was somehow preordained. I bought my first Glock 20. I really liked it. Then they were talking about magazine bans and reduction in capacity. I thought that Glock might go to a single stack magazine, so I bought another Glock 20 about six months after the first one. It turned out that the second Glock had the next consecutive serial number after the first one that I bought.
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Doc, I was the one that mentioned H+K. I have a full sized H+K USP Tactical version with all the accessories. It is like the Navy SOCOM except the barrel is threaded differently. It is .45 ACP, of course.
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A friend of mine are both fans of the 10. He shoots the Colt, I shoot the Glock. He likes his, I like mine. He is a bit hesitant to use my "full power" loads. The Glock has so much weight in the slide that it will eat just about anything.
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I think that there is very little difference between the military version and my HK Tactical. The Tactical is very well built, is somewhat larger than the regular USP, and will carry a 12 Round mag of .45. Most of my mags are 10, however.
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